Is Visual Micro the better Arduino IDE? Including ESP32 inline debugger
Many of us want a better tool than the Arduino IDE with more functionality and still the same ease of use. As we saw in an earlier video, one way to go is PlatformIO. Today we will test another tool that viewers proposed and see if it is any good: Visual Micro with its hardware debugger.
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This looks good! Since I worked with Rowley, Keil or CubeIDE the last few years I feel lost without these features. So do you install Visual Studio first then this extension? It looks a bit like VisualGDB.
It’s very nice that Arduino has the board support and examples but anything beyond that it’s very lacking and confusing too.
For example I just got an Adafruit Feather, I opened the Arduino Blinky example for it which toggles a pin LED_BUILTIN. So I right clicked to find where it’s defined, nothing. Hover over it to see it’s value, nothing. The .ino file doesn’t even include any .h files (not visibly anyway) but it must be being brought in from somewhere. It just doesn’t make sense and everything is obfuscated, I don’t see how that makes it any easier for beginners than simply showing the pin definitions included in a pins.h file.
Arduino 2.0 beta is out and supports all desired features, FYI
unfortunately being on linux cannot use this tool. so perhaps a video on platform io could still be worthwhile. or a reference to find other recommended tutorial series for getting started with pio. unfortuately my installation seems to have become broken now! since it wont let me import a simple arduino sketch. or i am missin doing something obvious. but i have no idea why! its all so complicated. it becomes rather confusing all the different layers of projects, workspaces, platforms etc. for example trying to stop project A from getting mixed up with project B
Thanks for the info Andreas, it's really nice of you to do all this research work and share it with everybody. I for one won't be using this Visual Micro if it only runs on Windows but it was still nice to see/hear "what's out there".
One question for you, please: how bad is the compatibility issue between Platform IO and Arduino? I'm considering using PIO just for its hardware debugging features but I wouldn't want to sink time in it (the "learning curve") if it won't be able to compile the existing code without rewriting it first.
Cheers!
Arduino 1.9 beta supports code completion
Thanks fot the sunday-gem! I always wonder: is there a possibility to completely virtualize the esp32/arduino, to refine the code, before even uploading? This would make things so much faster!
IMHO good choice is JetBrains CLion with platformio plugin.
great video, thanks!! Did you slow down the talking speed by ca 10-25%? ^^ It has gotten a bit slow for me on 2x 🙁 no offense intended
arduino ide 2.0beta is out from a week, with most of the things you asked included: autocompletion, navigation to definitions, debugger
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Dear friend, thanks a lot for the video
…but you miss again an english subtitles.
It's turn back spanish 🙁
paid subscription? even if it just was 1 cent per year, this is reason enough not to use it. how much i pay doesnt matter, but i rather own something than borrow.
Very interesting. Thanks.
I think I will switch to visual micro 🙂
I use Micrship studio. But I will consider VM i near future.
I appreciate the work you put into your presentations, but you messed up badly this time. Usually you start by installing the software – but not on this occasion. It’s a crucial step in this instance because as good as this application might be it only works on Windows – no linux, no Mac. I can live with that, but you should mention it *right at the beginning*, so those of us for whom this makes it a waste of time can bail out. No Engadiner Nusstorte for you this week 😉
I'm working on a complex Arduino project and this got me so excited, until finding out that Visual Micro is only supported on Windows (I use a mac) 🙁
What about the new IDE 2.0 of Arduino itself?
I've used VS Micro but I prefer PIO. Especially the dependency management of PIO is great. You said you don't want/need to work with different versions, but I doubt that. I usually want my 2 years old code to still compile if I go back to it. Arduino and VS Micro cannot do that because once you updated a library, all old code uses the new library and probably breaks. PIO prevents that by keeping the dependencies stable per project.
Does it support compiler directives like #ifdef, #else, etc?. I was unable to get platformio to do this. I like the idea of separating the serial output window from the main ide. Again I was unable to figure out how to do this on platformio.
Great video and thanks.
How about the OTA programming with WiFi for ESP32? Does it recognize as the Arduino IDE does? Anyway I'm going to try this after seeing your video.
By the way I tried the newly released Arduino IDE 2.0.3 beta with some improvements to the older IDE like auto complete, syntax error and more. Give it a try as well if you are already not done.
Great video again! Does Visual Micro support direct update of Github repository, which is also a nice feature of PlatformIO?
Great informative video as allways. Does visual micro supports esp-idf? I am not happy about the Arduino incapsulation.
I don't know if it's just me, but when using platform IO, I would regularly run into the problem "I'm running a project, but a completely different one launches" and I spent hours trying to fix it and never managed to do it, so I jumped ship.
What about compile time for ESP32? On the arduino IDE is awfully slow
Just becuase it wasn't explicitly mentioned you get that f12 functionality in vscode/platformio as well
I'm kind of under the impression that Arduino IDE was made to be simple. If you would like breakpoints and variable explorers, use Atmel Studio with the Arduino.h libraries.
I wish I could follow your demo of the software. But it‘s far too tiny too read anything. Please change your screen recording setup for future videos.
Seems like it won't run with Linux, so a waste of time for me.
I was not able to install platform IO as there is a issue with PIO Core installation error
It sounds like most of those features (the code completion, smart rename, etc) are also available in platform IO.
Other than the backwards compatibility, and less steep learning curve, does Visual Micro have anything that Platform IO doesn't have?
(I'm annoyed with the Arduino IDE and want to use something else.
I use VSCode and Visual Studio for work, my preference is VSCode.
I'm trying to weigh up if it's worth skipping Visual Micro and using Platform IO)
so much input, right after I found some grip to platfirmio. Seems, this is what grey and rainy weekends are made for … Thanks a lot.
Looks promising – thanks for this cool video Andreas 🙂
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